Re: Lecture by Dr. Gary Sailes
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September 25, 2009, 4:52 pm
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I am interested in your reactions to the lecture that we attended last evening. I thought that some of his comments were thought-provoking. I liked what he said about criticism: that if you are not being criticised, you are probably not leading.
What did you guys take away from the lecture? Did you find it effective? What didn’t you like about the lecture?
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I found this talk extremely interesting and helpful. Doc was an an effective communicator and his humorous approach to success really helped reach our audience. I found myself really listening to what he had to see and wanting to apply it to my every day life. My favorite part of his lecture was the demonstrations he did with our classmates, especially the ones about positiver thinking and priorities.
Comment by Valentina Alonso Gough September 25, 2009 @ 10:28 pmI found myself extremely disappointed with the lecture this past Thursday. Though only able to comment on my observations before regrettably having walked out of the lecture, I feel convinced I witnessed enough to form an opinion of it. Doc seems like a kind and fascinating man, but I have problems with the lecture he presented. I had expected a higher caliber of leadership advice besides positive thinking, confidence, and the like. Furthermore, Doc seemed to equate leadership with capitalism and material success. He spoke much of the necessary skills to survive a trying career or to score job interviews and offers, which I suppose he likens to leadership. The question to ask us is not if we know how to make a million dollars. Perhaps had he continued to talk about how a good leader spends her money to help society, this would have been a pertinent question to ask. Rather, it seemed as though increasing one’s material gains was the ends to one’s being a leader, not the means to do good with such gains.
The point at which I walked out was his less-than-compelling example of confidence. He retold a personal anecdote, of walking up to a beautiful girl in front of the boys he coached and asking for her “digits” in order to show the merits of confidence. The butt of the joke being that she was only in high school, Doc seemed to overlook the complete sexism and alienation immersed within his example.
To summarize the crux of my dissatisfaction, I do not think Doc seriously undertook the challenge to teach us students what is necessary to being a good leader. It is not as easy as saying “I can,” and it does not require college degrees, successful jobs, or money. It is filled with difficult decisions, confusion and fear, self-sacrifice and a complexity which absent in Doc’s lecture. From what I witnessed, Doc may have shown us how to succeed as businesspeople, but not as leaders.
Comment by Kristin Daly-Barnes September 27, 2009 @ 6:31 pmI must say that I agree with Kristin about the lecture: it was utterly disappointing. I understand that Dr. Sailes is a very impressive man, and as he said over and over in his lecture, he has done some important things. However, I found the point of his lecture to be quite meaningless. His main focus was on preparing ourselves for leadership within corporate America so we can “make a million dollars”. This incredibly materialistic outlook on life goes against my values. Bonners are committed to service leadership, while this lecture was aimed a attaining leadership within corporate America for the sole purpose of becoming “successful” (AKA wealthy).
He makes a good point in saying that by being in college we are already at an advantage. But while he purported this as a way to beat out competitors for high paying jobs, I see it as a wake up call. I forget the exact statistic, but I believe he said only 20% of students graduate college; to me this means something needs to be done to fix our educational system. Students should at least be graduating high school. We should absolutely use our college education to our advantage, but this advantage can be used to help others.
Even putting aside the discrepancies in the type of leadership, his lecture was contradictory, offensive, and mis-titled. He claimed that family was his second priority in life, and seemed to hint that success follows from prioritizing in a similar way. However, in one anecdotal example, he extolled the value of working from 7am to 9pm. Apparently, in saying that family comes 2nd he means they come 2nd on the weekends.
The aspect I found offensive was the same point at which KDB walked out. His story showed how he manipulated a young girl to prove that he was a confident man to a bunch of athletes. I don’t believe this is a quality anyone should aspire to.
This was supposed to be a lecture on leadership. However, attaining positions in the business world is one small aspect of the vast array of concepts that leadership encompasses. As KDB puts it so perfectly, his lecture was not directed at leaders but at potential business men and women.
Comment by Zannah Pierce September 28, 2009 @ 4:20 pmI agree with the previous comments. Whereas I have the same opinion with Val in the belief that the lecture was lively and kept the audience captive, I don’t agree with all of the points Doc was trying to highlight. For starters, I agree with Zannah’s statement on how his priorities were off kilter. Personally, I would put family above all else, and at times that may mean sacrificing valuable time that could be spent improving my leadership skills or in Doc’s case my position on the corporate ladder, however that would be a sacrifice I would be willing to make. Secondly, although I know that his speech was directed towards student athletes I feel as though he could have at least mentioned other approaches to acquiring leadership skills. He failed to mention taking any initiative to volunteer throughout communities, which are often times still important with sports teams too. While, athletics may be important in helping build some leadership skills, unless someone plans on becoming a professional athlete, athletes will most likely need to also focus their attention elsewhere in order to attain necessary leadership skills, because you can’t be an athlete forever.
Comment by Melissa Rutkowski September 29, 2009 @ 2:04 pmDespite my dislike of some aspects of Docs speech, I still found some of his points to be worthwhile. For example, he mentioned that when a person fails at a task (or like his example an exam) it doesn’t necessarily mean that the person is incompetent, they just need to continue trying to succeed but by an alternative method. We could apply this point in Bonner, when we are trying to plan our service events and hit a road block, we should just step back and evaluate the situation and try to approach it from a different angle. I also agree with one of his initial points, that although a person may possess the technical skills to succeed they also need to possess good personal skills and the capability of applying both these skill sets in real world situations. Overall, I would rate this lecture as satisfactory; while some of his main ideas seemed valid others were just disappointing.
While I understand and also agree with much of the dissatisfaction that stemmed from Dr. Sailes’ lecture, I feel that one valid point worth mentioning was his insistence on “mental toughness.” As noted, this experience comes from his work with athletes and sports’ training, but such an attitude and concept is also applicable in many other contexts and presenting an outward impression of resilience can be helpful (at times) in certain situations. As I believe others have also mentioned, I appreciate his focus on positive thinking and the importance of believing in oneself as a tool for empowerment toward self-confidence and success.
Dr. Sailes’ view toward criticism, however, (“that if you are not being criticized, you are probably not leading”) is not something with which I can entirely agree. While I believe that everyone has critics to some degree and that many leaders often experience criticism of their decisions, abilities, and accomplishments, I wouldn’t necessarily say that lack of criticism represents lack of good leadership. What if there truly happens to be a decent, effective, and honest leader with whom most individuals are satisfied, with whose policies they agree, and whom happens to be doing a good job of leading? Does lack of or only minimal criticism necessarily imply poor leadership? At the same time, just because a “leader” has many critics, are they really doing an effective job of displaying good leadership? There are, at times, cases where someone can claim to be a leader and insists that they are helping others, when in reality they are exhibiting poor leadership qualities and actually doing the very opposite.
Comment by Jess September 29, 2009 @ 8:48 pmNot to join in on the event-bashing, but I feel exactly the same as the last three ladies to chime in.
Comment by Maire Moriarty October 2, 2009 @ 1:22 amThe biggest problem was that the wrong people were invited – Sailes is a sports psychologist, and he gives talk on how to get athletes to use the skills they learn in sports to make it ahead in the corporate world. As Bonners, I think it’s safe to assume that our largest concern is not just buying ourselves big houses and nice cars – we want to lead the world into becoming a better place. We were told that we would be learning about leadership skills, but all we got was a seminar on workplace confidence.
I was miffed by his example of confidence as well, but the example he gave that really bothered me involved his three examples of students making decisions that didn’t concern their future – The one who dropped out and became a teller, the one who mixed coke and alcohol, and the GREEK who killed his friends drunk driving. All three example were intensely effective in getting his point across, but as a dedicated member of my sorority (if you didn’t know, greeks were also encouraged to attend – it is, after all, another organization on campus that requires leaders) I was offended that he had to slide in the fact that the student was Greek, especially when Ursinus hates us enough already and they told us to go. I know it was a small deal, but it got my goat enough for me to comment.
He did have some good interpersonal advice, but for me it was falling on deaf ears – I’m not a student athlete, and I most definitely do not want to make a million dollars. His cockiness and poor use of examples didn’t make up for his abilities as an engaging speaker.
I’m really glad SOMEONE felt the same way I did, because after the event I had to go do Spanish homework with a student athlete business major who absolutely loved the talk…
=)
Hi guys,
Comment by Lindsay October 5, 2009 @ 8:58 pmJess, oddly enough the part which you did not agree with was the ONLY part of the entire presentation that I did agree with. Critics show that you are taking risks and that you are breaking out from the norm. Without them, you cannot learn or grow. I am not saying that if you are doing good deeds you should be criticized, what i am saying is that it takes a lot of break away from your friends and do what is less popular, which is what i believe he was saying.
Other than that, this man highly offended me. I spoke actually with an athlete in business and he told me that he agreed with it, and oddly enough that is exactly what I determined in another conversation that the lecture was about. Honestly when he was telling the ancedote about his son getting sick i was shocked to hear that he actually did leave the conference to go get him. Not that i believe that was the wrong decision at all, it just did not reflect what he was saying in the rest of it.
Another question- what of those who do not have religion? Does everything else move up in priority? Can’t I structure my own priorities? And what about the kid who just wanted a tennis scholarship. Doc called him lazy because he wouldnt put in the hours to become a pro…well guess what…he did not want to become a pro! If To be the ceo of a company, I am not going to work to become that. If I just needed a part-time job to get through school I would work hard at it, but advancement on something that is a means to your greater goal does not seem as crucial as he made it sound.
I will give him one thing though. He did spark conversation. I do not find him as, well, enlightening, as others did who heard him. In fact, as I said, I was offended. (esp at the point that KDB and Zannah brought up as well.)
Now what I got from the presentation was it is very important to have mental toughness, confidence, and to prioritize and that was it. Those things are essential to overcome obstacles, but they are too simple and things I already realize are important for leadership. I also agree with Kristen and Zannah that the presentation was for a very specific audience. The presentation was geared toward athletes and people interested in business and becoming a millionaire, which are things that do not interest me. Yes, it takes a lot of confidence, and dedication to become a CEO, but to me those are selfish goals and not about service and what the Bonner program exemplifies. If he mentioned how through business one can influence the economy of a country that can in turn benefit people in poverty, the environment, and other social issues then maybe I would think it related to being a leader. Now don’t get me wrong I think Dr. Gary Sailes is a man who has worked very hard throughout his life, overcome many obstacles, and knows what it takes to be a successful citizen of his community, but I did not get that from his presentation. He should have given more examples of life experiences for why he has this way of thinking and how he came to be what he is today. That would have provided more advice about leadership than his planned out power point presentation did.
Comment by Dana October 5, 2009 @ 11:55 pm